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07/11/2008 at 22:01

Hi everyone, hope you don't mind me posting on here?

I'm currently going through my third miscarriage since June, which is hearbreaking, and whilst I know it's not directly a fertility problem cos I can get pregnant, it's still classed as a form of infertillty cos I can't seem to carry. It's hopefully going to be looked into now but I was wondering if anyone on here has suffered with the same and can offer me any advice on what to say/ask when I see the doc and gynae. The girls on TTC have been great - I just want to be over informed if you like rather than under.

Also, thought if anyone else has gone through this then we can support each other along the way.

Thanks, Erika xxx

18/11/2008 at 08:05

Hi Erika,

I am sorry to hear what you have been going through, but I read something recently that might or might not help you.

It was an article about a woman who, like you was having miscarriages all the time. She was eventually told she had a Folic Acid Defficiancy. While it is normally ok to start taking it once you find out you are pregnant, it turned out this was not enough for her babies. She was told to start taking it for a few months before actually trying to concieve to give her an added boost, believe it or not it worked...

Don't know if you have already have being doing this but it could be worth a try, it certainly can't do any harm!

Emma

18/11/2008 at 09:03

Hi

I am sorry to hear what you have been going through, i'm afraid i don't have any advice but i have had 2 miscarriages since June. I last week took 3 positive tests (i know 3 may sound a bit excessive but am paranoid about something going wrong) i woke up yesterday and all my pregnancy symptoms had disappeared and just knew something had gone wrong. Took a test and it showed negative, went to the hospital and they did a test and showed negative, i was naturally crying and the nurse insinuated that i maybe imagined that i was pregnant as i want a baby (which made me feel great as you can imagine!!!!) Now i am just too paranoid to try again for fear of this happening to me again. I have pains but no bleeding as of yet, does anyone know how long i will have to wait for the bleeding to begin??? If it has happened more than once do i have more chance of this happenign again or any other advice really? Good luck to everyone on here  xx

16/01/2009 at 11:25

It's been a long time since I wrote on here so thought I ought to say thank you for your replies and to update the situation!

I have since had my fourth mc in six months and have finally been referred to see a gynae. The docs made another error and hadn't referred me back in Nov when they were supposed to. So now waiting again, but we're having a break from ttc for a while in the hope that we can somehow get over the past 6 months and start afresh once we see the gynae.

Emma thanks for your post on the folic acid thing, I have been taking my folic acid (pregnacare) since I came off the pill in March, we then started trying in June. We fall pregnant straight away each time, just don't seem to be able to carry at the moment. I do wonder if it's a hormonal problem or something though, guess time will tell.

Vics, sorry for the way you were treated at the hospital, it seems the NHS can't be all that sympathetic these days! I hope you're ok now? Are you still ttc? Fingers crossed for you hon.

Anyone else out there going through a similar thing?

Erika

xx

16/01/2009 at 16:47

I didn't want to read and leave. Just wanted to wish you goodluck and keep your head up.

Keep us updated

16/01/2009 at 17:04

Hi Erika,

I too have had 4 miscarriages.  Official that is - I think there have been 6, but 2 were extremely early and I hadn't got around to testing yet.  My first was in Jan 07, the latest back in May 08.  Since then we haven't been ttc at all, as we are trying all sorts of stuff to try and help.  Have a look at the Foresight website  www.foresight-preconception.org.uk.   We're currently in the middle of the vit/min program as we were both found to be deficient in zinc and other key minerals which are important in pregnancy - even tho I would say we eat extremely healthily - never eat processed food etc.

I was referred to the nearest hospital that has a recurrent miscarriage clinic after the 3rd, but found them to be really unhelpful.  I never saw the same doctor twice and it all seemed to be a guessing game.  There are a few key things which are known to cause recurrent mc, and as I tested negative for them all they were at a loss as to what to do next.  I would recommend reading 'Miscarriage - what every woman needs to know' by Prof Lesley Regan - I found it so helpful to understand so much more about what was happening.  Also it opened my eyes to the fact that the tests my local hopsital had performed were done incorrectly, and so may have produced false negative results! After this I asked to be referred to St Mary's in London where Prof Regan works - it is the biggest recurrent mic clinic in Europe, and is at the forefront of new research. I have been for 3 appts so far, and found them to be excellent.  I am having a hysteroscopy and biopsy of the womb lining on Monday which I am quite scared about, but hopefully there may be an answer - even if it's just ti say that they can't find a cause at least it'll be closure of some kind. It's been such a waiting game, can't wait for it to be over!

 J x

18/01/2009 at 19:58

Bluemoon - have noticed your on TTC so will chat to you on there hon. I'm always here if you want to talk, you're so lucky to be going to St Mary's, I was reading up on their work recently, amazing stuff.

Good luck for Monday, will be thinking of you xxx

09/02/2009 at 20:03
Hi Bluemoon - just wondering how you are if you're reading this? Last time you posted on the ttc thread and you were going for an apt at St Marys, not heard anything else since? Just hoping you're ok? xxx
02/03/2009 at 21:30

Hi everyone so sorry to hear what you've all been going through im going back to the EPU in the morning as they suspect i have just suffered my third M/C in 7 months, been bleeding heavly all week although my vaginal examination last week confirmed my womb hadn't opened?? terrified that it's happened again, and that it may happen next time i manage to get pregnant

Good luck everyone & wish me luck x x

Leah x x x

02/03/2009 at 21:55

Hi Leah,

So sorry to hear of your potential loss, really hope it's good news for you tomorrow hon. I don't want this to sound harsh and unsympathetic but if it is the worse case scenario then don't lose hope hon.

If you've had three then they'll have to look into it for you. I've recently had 4 mc's in six months and have had all those feelings and emotions too. You will find the strength to carry on, there will just be that little bit of hope each time. I have my apt with the specialist on Thurs, hoping to get some answers as to what going wrong.

Someone who was on the ttc thread (Gem - hi Gem if you're readin this!) had 5 mc's, same scenario as you and I, the docs gave her tablets and I'm pretty certain she's 12 weeks now and doing fab. Someone else who was kind enough to contact me on here recently also had the same and is 30 something weeks now, it can happen and it will happen. We just have to stay strong. It is very hard, esp as my due date is two weeks tomorrow and rather than gearing up for my baby i'm finding out why it's going wrong, but that desire for a little one will keep you and your OH going strong.

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. I hope that you'll be ok and will see what you want, but you know where we are either way.

Take care, and all the best

Erika

xxx

03/03/2009 at 17:41

Hi Erika thanks for your support it's really conforting speaking to someone who knows what im going through, the Hospital confirmed today that i has miscarried for the third time, i wasnt shocked i knew id lost too much blood to still be pregnant. But you just hang to your hopes dont you??

They are know refering me for ans investigation so fingers crossed i can get to the bottom of it, i wish you really well for thursday you'll have to let me know how you go on.

All the best

Leah x x

03/03/2009 at 19:16

Oh Leah, i'm so sorry hon. I was thinking of you today. I was so hoping all would be ok.

I know exactly what you mean, even with the heavy blood loss and the pain you still hope and pray that all will be ok. The sonographers at the EPU know me well now and even they had a tear for me with my last scan. They showed me the screen as they scanned and I was adamant I saw something, but of course I was wrong and there was nothing there. Each time they see me they say one day they will see me and give me good news, I hope so, and I hope the same happens for you.

I hope you get a quick response from the docs in relation to finding out what went wrong, if you haven't heard in 6 weeks chase them up, I wish I had done. Instead I left it and waited for them to contact me, when I did finally chase I hadn't been referred cos in their words 'I'd just had a baby'. To say I was livid was an understatement.

Feelin petrified now about thurs, I've pinned so many hopes on this apt I'm scared I'm going to be disappointed. I know I wont get the answers on Thurs, but at least it'll be the start of the journey. It really hit me last night about my loss, was in tears for hours with my hubby. I must've repeated myself so many times but he just listened, hugged and cried too. I feel so empty at the moment with my first due date round the corner.

I hope you and your OH take time to talk and cry together, it took a while for my hubby to allow himself to do this, it finally clicked two weeks ago when he held our newborn niece for the first time. We've got another niece or nephew due a few weeks after our due date too, always the way. Make's it so much harder.

Thinking of you both sweety, and don't give up or lose hope, it'll happen. All those statistics that they quote at you must come from somewhere. And I am bloody determined to be one of those on the correct side of the statistics and I hope that you'll join me there too.

xxxxxx

04/03/2009 at 18:32

Hi Erika I'l have all my fingers & toes crossed for you tomrow sweetie i hope you come away feeling like you've got somewhere this time!!

i'l just have to wait now and hope the hospital are as helpfull as possible {i'll not hold my breath} and just to try to concentrate on something else for a while. {as if !!!}

hope you get a promising result Thursday i'll be praying for ya babe.

x x x x

05/03/2009 at 19:43

Aww Leah, I just had to let you know what happened today!

The doc reckons that with being on the pill  for ten years and other things my body isn't ovulating right and therefore producing enough progesterone to sustain my pregnancies, so he's going to put me on chlomid to kick start it all.

Quite shocked in one sense cos I can get pregnant and know so many on the forums that would give anything to be given that drug. My doc has to agree to it first though, if she wont then I have to go the whole hog with the fertility clinic and treatment via them. I don't see why they will disagree so hopefully it'll all be ok from here on.


He promised me I wont lose another baby, which is hard to believe but for some reason I cant explain I do trust him. I feel so much positive for having seen him.

I really really hope that your apt etc comes through quickly and you too get to experience this feeling!! After all the pain and hurt I feel like I'll get my baby!!

How are you and your OH feeling?? Thinking of you sweetie xxxx

07/03/2009 at 16:03

Erika that is fantastic news im so pleased for you!!

That is a brilliant result though i bet you wern't expecting the doctor to be so helpfull first time, i would luv that same thing to happen with me, i have also been on pill for 8 years. Oh you have just filled me with hope, and im sooo happy for you babe.

Hopefully now you will get what you derserve we have to keep in touch i would luv to hear how you go on, it's a bit of support for us both isn't it. I'l just be desperate for my apt to come through now

All the best sweetie dont forgot to keep in touch x x x

09/03/2009 at 11:24

Leah, sorry for not replying sooner hon.

I honestly was expecting to be shoved from pillar to post again, we've had such a crap service from the docs til now. It made me smile so so much for the first time in months, and it really hit me the other day that I'm finally going to get an opportunity to be a mum! I was in tears!!

If you don't hear anything within 6 weeks, make sure you chase them, and be strong. I only wish we'd chased sooner and then I might already be pregnant now.

I can honestly say I don't reckon I'll go back on the pill after all this, it's not til something like this happens that you realise how awful all those chemicals can be to your body. Funny though cos when he said he felt that was my problem it was like a light bulb went on! I was so busy blaming myself for lifting this, or doing that. It's hard in one sense to think that I need fertility treatment cos my body isn't working properly, but I really don't care if it means that after all the heartache in the past year we get to have our baby. It feels so bloody real now and the feeling is amazing!!

It's been a long journey (not as long as some girls on here I know, and my heart goes out to you) but it's going to be so worth it.

I really hope you get seen soon and they can put you on the right treatment. You had better keep in touch hon!!

Hope you're feeling a bit better now, I'm so glad that my good news has also helped someone else.

xxx

09/03/2009 at 22:08

Yeah Me and my Hubby are doing ok now still a bit bruised but speaking to you has given me loads of confort and i really want to thank you for that. I suppose we just have to be patient now and wait our turn like everyone else has to.

I just hope we can get anywhere near the result that you have. I honestly cant tell you how happy i am for you, i respect you so much instead of making your self a victim you've just battled on with it and tried to help others as well,

Good on ya girl

All the best with your next apt let me know the latest

Kiss kiss x

10/03/2009 at 13:20

Hey Leah

You're bound to feel battered and bruised, and to be honest, that feeling may never leave you. There will always be someone who tries to shove a baby into your arms (recent experience!) or someone who makes a comment without thinking about what they're saying first. You will never forget the babies that you have lost, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise, esp if they go on about them not being babies til past 12 weeks, it's rubbish.

There have been times, esp over xmas, when I just felt I couldn't take anymore, I just wanted to crawl into bed and never come out, but I have made some truly amazing and close friends on this site, who have always been willing to comfort me and listen to me, and to be honest, I'm not sure I'd have got through it without them. If you're reading this girls, you know who you are!

There have been times when I have felt truly sorry for myself, but it didn't last long. I know there are people in worse situations than me, I am so lucky to know that I can get pregnant. The MW's probably said the same to you - 'you can do that hard bit...' we just need some assistance with the rest!!

My road to 'recovery' if you like really started when I stopped blaming myself.

Your words mean an awful lot to me Leah, knowing that I have helped you in some way, that heals more wounds than you can ever realise!

My docs apt is booked - 19th March at 8:10am. So hopefully we'll get given the chlomid then and things will be moving on even quicker! I will ofcourse keep you posted!

You know where I am chick if you need to chat or anything. I will try and PM you my mobile number so you can text/call me whenever you need a cry or moan. I've been there so I understand.

Take care sweetie

xxx

10/03/2009 at 18:23
hi eri,

i dont know alot about this subject i have suffered a misscarriage so i know your pain.
i just wanted a tell you about my friend, i dont know the ins and outs but its just to give you abit of hope. she had 13 mcs and a stillbirth bless her, like you she had no problems gettin pregnant, just keeping them, she could get pregnant every month anyway, she now has a healthy 2 yearold. like i said i dont know much but she had her womb stitched up and that made her carry to full term. i cant stress enough how i dont know all the facts about it but i know thats was the hospital did for her.

good luck for the future,
luv vicky xx
12/03/2009 at 13:00

Hi Vicky, thank you for your post hon. Every success story fills me with hope.

Your poor friend to have to go through all that.

I see your a mummy now too! How are things going with your littleun?

xxx

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