Hi All

Please help!! I really do want to buy the icandy - apple but I do not know whether I should also buy the carry cot. I have read conflicting information that it is suitable from birth (this is without the carry cot) & other information stating it is suitable from 6 months.

Any help would be appreciated!!

Thank you

Sarb

We have had the icandy Apple for 7 months now - brilliant, can only recommend it!

We got the carrycot included in the package initially. I hope that is still the case, as I don't think the buggy is really suitable from birth. Our girl started using it (with the foot muff for additional padding and filling out the seat) as from 4 1/2months. Before that, use the carrycot, it's a really good size (longer than our moses basket), which you can also use as travel cot when you are on the road.

Again, we didn't want a Bugaboo, wanted something solid and sturdy, so the icandy is fab.

And the company seems to really listen to feedback - they have just released matching parasols and fleecy buggy inserts AND even better, there seems to be an additional system you can buy for when Baby number two comes along - it's all on www.icandy.co.uk. 

i am also in London had an icandy apple because i was swayed by its good looks and the 3 wheels 4 wheels thingy, and kind of buzz and kind of bugaboo lookey likey

DONT BE SWAYED by its extensive marketing blurb and fancy web site -this pram is  areal DOOZEY absolutely terrible.

Weighs a ton @5kg more than bugaboo

Dreadful rickety suspension - hard to steer no maneoverability

scratches easily

3 whhells mode really unstable

i am note and am bemused that another poster details its many faults eg they state

DON'T BOTHER BUYING THE iCANDY PARASOL, IT WON'T LAST A WEEK, I KNOW 3 OTHER PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THEM & THEY'VE ALL BROKEN. THERE'S NO TIE TO SECURE IT WHEN CLOSED, SO SPOKES CATCH ON THINGS AND SNAP/RIP.  2) UNPACK & AIR THE RAIN COVERS FOR WEEKS BEFORE FIRST USE. LEAVE OUTSIDE IF POSS. THERE ARE OVERPOWERING, OFFENSIVE FUMES FROM PLASTIC! 3) BE VERY VERY CAREFUL IN 3-WHEEL MODE, IF YOU TAKE A TIGHT CORNER IT WILL TIP OVER.  ALL THIS INTO ACCOUNT: I'D STILL RECOMMEND IT OVER THE BUGABOO

but still recommends it over cameleon- not a patch on cameleon

the upshot is i sold this doozey less than one month after receiving it - was so unhappy with its steering, maneouverability, weight, unstable in 3 wheel mode

..and yes i bought a cameleon- and loving it

icandy aple - don't go there

Baby born 3/9/07 at 9 pounds 13 ounces, a hell of a birth resulting in 2 failed sections as could feel the cut of the knife and ended up being knocked out my poor wife was still awake as they tried to insert tubes down her throat!!!  I was whisked out of there sharpish.... aarrgghh!!!

Anyway, have used the Icandy Apple from day one and to be honest were quite happy with it, had a bit of concern over the carrycot then realised to secure it there is a bit that pulls down from underneath!!!  The maxi cosi fits on great and we tend to use this more for convenience, although carrycot when walking anywhere of disne.  Logan our son seems happy enough in it.

Did take advice about the rain covers and hung them outside on the washing line for a good few days, smell has gone, thanks for that tip.

Just wanted to clarify why I appeared to criticise the iCandy, yet stand by my recommendation.

I think the three points I mentioned are relatively minor in the grand scheme of things - the parasol gets damaged because it needs a tie to keep it together when collapsed. I'm sure iCandy will it put right soon, after all the parasol only came out in June/July this year. Wait until they add a tie to the design, stitch on a tie yourself or buy a generic one with a clamp from Mothercare or Prince Lionheart.

Secondly, the rain covers are made of polythene/plastic just like every other make of pram/pushchair. I would assume fastidious Bugaboo owners air theirs too (?)  

The three-wheel point is the only one worth worrying about as it makes the ultra-safe, sturdy Apple a little less so. The Bugaboo does not have three-wheel mode anyway so there's no comparison to be made in this category.  If you really want a three-wheeler then go for the Phil&Ted's (then you're all ready for your 2nd baby too!)

These are the only drawbacks I can find having used my iCandy Apple every day for 5½months. I just felt I wanted to share my experiences with anyone deciding between the iCandy & the Bugaboo. I can assure you the list of drawbacks I had for the Bugaboo is longer - small, flimsy, not suitable for tall people, carrycot flimsy (Apple carrycot fantastic), annoying fixed crossbars (Apple crossbars swing open to get baby in/out) doesn't collapse easily (Apple collapses in one move), did I mention common, way too common? Need I go on?

Anyway, I'm really happy with the choice I made, but each to their own.

Have had the icandy for the past 12 months and am delighted with it. Would say it was suited to someone who walked a lot as it can be heavy to get in and out of the car.

The carrycot is in a much higher position than the bugaboo and it is held securely in place by a support (unlike the Quinny and Bugaboo).

 Have used this with four wheels and it's been easy to manouevre and both the carrycot and pushchair are very comfortable (our son has slept in both but will not sleep in a buggy).

Although the icandy is heavier than other buggies it feels much sturdier to push and I would highly recommend it.